Harry Potter and the Spoof of Max's Title
Over at Max's site, Mia was commenting about how she wanted to talk about the new Harry Potter book, but didn't have the opportunity to do so without spoiling the plot to people who haven't finished it. So, I decided to designate this post as one where we can discuss the book. If you haven't finished, only look in the comments if you aren't afraid of spoilers. Let us proceed.
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Ooh awesome!!
Umm, they're quitting school?? I mean it'll certainly be different without Dumbledore but I don't know. It's hard to explain my feelings on this. The part that really confuses me is how they're all supposedly staying with the Dursleys. I mean, Harry obviously will, but there's no real need for Ron and Hermione to and I can't see the Dursleys taking them.
Dumbledore dies. Hmm. OK. So now who's going to guide Harry?? Give him help?? I mean, the mentor dude can't die!! At least not before the evil one does. The next book is going to be very interesting.
Ginny. I never really liked the idea of Harry and Ginny getting together. I thought that her crush on him was like someone with a crush on Johnny Depp or Heath Ledger. A crush on a famous person which you eventually give up on once you meet the cute, sweet kid in your math class (or something like that). What I liked the least about this was how sudden and abrupt it was. They just kissed and then all of a sudden it's over because Harry thinks he's Spiderman.
Ron and Hermione. I always thought that if Ron ever got a girlfriend, Hermione would do a bit of a better job of hiding her jealousy. I thought that she would show her dislike, but she wouldn't be so hurt and mad. Like I said on Max's site, that's more Ron than Hermione. She'd be more likely to just wait it out.
Snape. Hmmm. So he was fooling Dumbledore the whole time??? I kind of liked the idea that there was this incredibly evil guy who was still good. Oh well. I bet Alan Rickman will have fun (or at least be really good at) doing that.
Ok, I think that's all of the topics I can think of to talk about right now. Although something about the soul thingys (can't remember the name and the book is too far away) confused me. Like there should have been one less.
~Mia
Yeah, I don't think they should drop out, but I also feel that it's unavoidable if Dumbledore had to die. Dumbledore was basically the strongest thing that protected Harry at Hogwarts, and now that he's gone, Harry has to go finish off Voldemort himself.
Hagrid and/or Lupin will probably mentor Harry in the next book.
Yeah, there was too much romance overall, and now Harry has to go be a hero. Geez.
I still suspect that Snape will turn back...possibly one of those last minute, Darth Vader-esque things; Harry is fighting Voldemort, and Snape turns sides to help him. I was also wondering what Alan Rickman's thinking right now.
Horcruxes. Yeah, they were confusing.
And how 'bout this RAB figure? What's the deal with him/her?
I didn't really think that there was too much romance overall (although the Tonks/Lupin thing sort of surprised me), but Harry playing the hero was annoying.
I really need to see Star Wars again. I don't remember anything from 4-6. Darth Vader turns back?? Doesn't Luke kill him?? That's what I remembered. Confusion. I don't really picture Snape turning back, but maybe. I dunno.
RAB. I was thinking it was Sirius' brother. I don't remember if we ever learned his middle initial, but his first name definitely started with R (Regulus or something like that). Oh wait. Rereading the note. Yeah, OK. So now I'm almost positive it's his brother. "I'll be dead. . .I hope you're mortal. . ."
Horcruxes. What confused me was the amount and how Voldemort made them. How did he know how to make them? Slughorn certainly didn't tell him that. He just said you have to kill people. And the number was confusing. Like there were 6 and 2 had been destroyed. Didn't the remains of his soul destroy when his curse rebounded on him when he tried to kill Harry?? Didn't he use one of them when he came back to life?? That was the impression I got. Which would mean that there were only 3 left to destroy to make Voldemort mortal again.
~Mia
Yeah, I suppose JK Rowling was rather vague and inconsistent about the horcruxes.
In Star Wars 6, Darth Sidious is torturing Luke, so Darth Vader kills him. Luke then tries to get DV off the Death Star, but he refuses to go.
Yea, Regulus...that makes sense. I'll have to look back at the description of the Black family in book 5 and see what happened to him.
Damn, do I hate cliffhangers. At least I'll probably have forgotten about all this in a few weeks…
And this is a really annoying cliffhanger too!!! Not the cliffhanger itself (Gilmore Girls had a better actual cliffhanger) but the fact that I won't be able to know for, chances are, another two years. This makes this much more frustrating than Gilmore Girls because I'll find out what happens in 2 months-ish. Argh!
Was Darth Sidious the guy in 3 who turned Anakin into Darth Vader? That name sounds familiar. So Luke didn't actually kill Darth. Huh. I really need to see those again. And actually stay awake for them.
Regulus was a Death Eater who wanted out, so Voldemort had someone kill him. He must have known that someone was going to kill him, and since he knew about the horcruxes, he stole one and, hopefully, destroyed it.
~Mia
I thought the book was slightly disappointing because although most of the answers were revealed, they wern't what I hoped they would be. Though I expected Dumbledore to die, I hoped that he would give Harry some amazing fact about Snape or something that changed Harry's liking for him. Also, why would Dumbledore never give Snape the defense against the dark arts job until now? What changed his mind? If Dumbledore was going to die, I don't like the idea of him being murdered. I think though, if he wasn't murdered, Harry would figure he was to blame for his death. Also, now that Harry's not going back to school next year, I doubt there will be an eighth book. I was kind of expecting the seventh book to be like this one, and then an eighth book that will probably be like the seventh is now. Anyways, I liked all the romance stuff but I thought it was stupid how harry dumped ginny at the end.
One more thing...
Did I miss something in the fifth book?
What happened to Hermione and Viktor Krum???
One more thing again...
When Harry destroyed Voldemort when he was a baby, he killed his body, not his soul, so that still leaves five.
Yes, but didn't he kill one of his souls too?? And the reason Voldemort didn't die was because he had those back-up souls (horcruxes)?
I don't think she really explained anything about Krum. I think that Hermione might have still been writing to him, and it just wasn't a part of the book like it was last time.
You were expecting an 8th book?? She has said that she's only writing 7. One for each year of school (except that the next one won't be a year of school, obviously).
Dumbledore just trusted Snape. I don't think that he had this amazing piece of evidence; he just trusted him. So he wasn't going to say anything to Harry because he was kind of wrong.
~Mia
I think Snape got the DADA position because Dumbledore wanted people trained to defend themselves against Voldemort/Death Eaters, and Snape had worked with them before.
And yeah, when Voldemort was killed for the first time, one part of his "soul" was destroyed.
Kate, this is the sixth book, not the seventh. And I did hear a rumor about an 8th book, but I don't believe it.
Speaking of rumors, I also heard that Rowling said during an interview that Sirius would come back. I didn't take this seriously either, but it made me wonder whether Sirius might have used Horcruxes too...did he ever actually kill anyone before we met him?
I still think Snape will come back to our side. I've abandoned a theory that he "had" to kill Dumbledore so he could comply with the Unbreakable Vow and get closer to Voldemort, since I don't think Rowling would go as far as to kill Dumbledore if that were true...but I still think he'll come back.
Sirius never killed anyone. That we know of. I don't believe that he's going to come back. I also don't think that Snape will return. If it was a matter of the Unbreakable vow, I think that if he was still good, he would have died rather than kill Voldemort. So he's definitely turned to the Dark side. But I think that he's there to stay.
Why wouldn't Snape have been the DADA teacher in 5th year if it was because they wated people trained against Death Eaters?? Voldemort was back then and Dumbledore knew it.
~Mia
I liked certain parts of it overal, but it felt kinda like a rehash of number 5 plus some unnessesary romance.
I have a review on my blog (shameless selfplug cough www.smiterbob.blogspot.com coughshamelessselfplug).
My brother's theory about Snape is that he killed Dumbledore on Dumbledore's orders; evidence that he's still good includes how he was advising Harry to keep his "mind closed" as he was escaping/deflecting Harry's curses.
Snape wasn't DADA teacher in book 5 because Umbridge was appointed by the Ministry, remember?
Yes, but that was because Dumbledore couldn't find anyone. If he had found someone willing to take Potions, the Ministry would not have been able to appoint Umbridge.
I still think Snape's bad. But who knows (besides JK Rowling). Maybe I'm like Harry, Ron, and Hermione in book 1 (and other times too, that I can't specifically think of).
~Mia
w00t. I've been waiting to discuss this with somebody ever since I accidentally spoiled the ending for a good friend of mine.
Okay, first off, by my count there should be far fewer horcruxes than they say. The first Voldy died when Harry was 1, agreed? This 'body' had to have a section of his soul, which leads me to believe that after that there were only six left.
After CoS, there should only be five. Then take out the ring and you have four. That's Voldemort, Nagini, the Hufflepuff Cup, and the Slytherin Necklace.
A perfect count if I do say so myself. Only, if it was Regulus Black that whomped all over the necklace a buncha-buncha years ago, then odds are that the necklace is STILL in 12 Grimmauld Place.
Turn to page 116 of HP & OotP, go down to the section where they can't open a 'necklace' and you'll see my suspicions. And now check out this book, when they run into Mundungus and he drops a 'cup.'
Could it be that everything is set up for book 7? I think so.
As for Snape, I strongly suspect that Dumbledore asked him to kill him. "Snape... please..." If only because the poison was going to do him in anyway, but more than likely so that he could get that much closer to Voldemort.
A guy in a discussion board recently said that Snape might not have killed him at all. He might have said Avadra Kedavra, but silently done another spell. Why else would the book focus on silent spells?
What else, what else.... Oh, and Harry has to go back to Hogwarts. It just doesn't make sense to take him out of there. There's one book for every year he's at the place, why would 7 be any different?
Hogwarts is where all the fun is at.
P.S. I liked the relationshippy stuff in the book. Also, I was certain Dumbly wasn't going to pull through. :( Still, though, one can hope, right? Here's to number 7.
I totally agree with pixelation about the necklace.
Of course I don't have the 5th book with me at home right now, so I can't look up the necklace reference, but it does make sense.
Still, would Mundugus know about Voldemort's horcruxes? Or would he just want to take stufff that he thought was valuable, taking into account a necklace from the founding of Hogwarts would be extremely valuable?
I think the end of the book was a bit quick, however. I mean, Dumbledore and Harry come back, and all of a sudden, Dumbledore gets killed, and Harry goes beserk and runs after Snape and Draco and all this fighting and when he comes back, everyone's gone. It's just soo quick that's it's kind of like Rowling was hurrying to finish.
On another note, I think Dumbledore really is dead. If he wasn't the spell on Harry wouldn't have lifted. Dumbledore didn't have his wand, especially after being blasted out of a tower, so it's doubtful he could of removed it. Also, if he wasn't dead, you'd think they'd have found out by now. I mean, come on, a funeral...if he wasn't dead, he's locked in a tomb now.
As for Harry destroying one of the souls when he first destroyed Voldemort at age 1, I dunno about that.
I also don't see how Harry could just continue without going to Hogwarts. I mean, he won't have learned some of the more important spells, etc. that he might end up needing to know. Things learned in the last years are probably more important, though difficult, for Harry, who'll need probably a lot of advanced magic for destroying those horcruxes. Or he could learn it somewhere else....I dunno.
I also somehow doubt Sirius will come back.
Also, maybe Dumbledore appointed Snape because he couldn't find another DADA teacher, but he could easily find a potions one. I mean, Slughorn was a good teacher, just a bit strange, but he didn't do the school any real harm. And maybe Dumbledore didn't want another Ministry person appointed for the job, we all know how Umbridge turned out.
What I wonder is, will Harry get his book back? If Hogwarts is closing, it'll kinda stay there for a while...but I wonder why Snape would have taken his old book and put it in the potion's cabinet. He didn't want Harry to find the spells, so why would he want anyone else to? Other than maybe his favorites, but he would have found a way to give it to them by now, no? A weird doing on his part.
I also doubt Snape will come back. The Unbreakable Vow said he would help Draco and keep him out of trouble...and Draco could have killed Dumbly himself, he was just too scared or whatever. And remember earlier in the book, Draco refused help from Snape. I think Snape wanted to finish of Dumbledore himself, to be closer to Voldemort.
And I could see why he killed him anyway. In the begining Snape says he had been spying on Dumbledore. There's no more need for spying on Dumbledore anymore, he's got all he needs to know. So Snape might as well finish him off...which he did.
What about this Scrigemour fellow? Kind of weird, isn't he? I personally think he'll do a better job than Fudge, who wasn't willing to believe anything Dumbledore said, and always turned out to be wrong...messing things up all the time. But this Scrigemour fellow seems kinda laid back, at some times, and awfully sketchy.
Anyways, gotta go. ALl for now.
Oh my God, Pixelation I forgot about that neckace. Hmm. So is it still a horcrux or did Sirius' brother destroy it? To destroy the horcrux does the thing (the ring, the necklace) get destroyed too?? Either way, I bet it is still a horcrux because they can't open it.
I think that Fudge, now that he's finally realized that Voldemort's back, would have done a better job than Scrimgeour. I see why everyone wanted him sacked - he was awful during the 5th book - but I think that he would have worked with Dumbledore and would have gotten more accomplished.
Dumbledore is definitely dead. While the ideas that Sirius would come back were at least relatively reasonable (he didn't die in a regular way, no body, etc), Dumbledore was killed outright and there was a body which was buried. So, he's not coming back.
I'm not convinced that Snape is good. "Smape gazed for a moment at Dumbledore and there was revulsion and hatred etched in the harsh lines of his face." Now, I'm sure that this could be taken on many other levels, but I believe that Snape truly wanted to kill Dumbledore.
I'm not sure if I think they're going to school or not. I have no idea how they think they're going to find and destroy these horcruxes because Dumbledore isn't around anymore to help them. Still undecided here.
I think that with Voldemort, the snake, the cup, and the necklace it makes 7 (3 destroyed), but it didn't seem like that's what JK Rowling thought. Very confused.
~Mia
Anybody else notice the two objects that nearly took out Katie and Ron? I'll give you a hint, they were a necklace and a potion... that he drank out of a goblet.
I'm not saying that these were special in any way, but still, crazy foreshadowing, no?
And I think I take back my belief that Harry destroyed one of Voldy's souls at age 1. Rereading the book, I'm fairly certain that all he did was separate him from his body.
As for Snape, I'm reserving judgement for now. I suspect he's really evil, but I admit that it's entirely possible that he could be good or possibly just decent.
And what was with Wormtail? Is he going to be important anymore? In book 3, Dumbledore said that Voldy wouldn't want a servant that was indebted to Harry. But the only pay off I saw here was some suspicious looks in book 4, Wormtail suggesting Potter wasn't necessary, and then Voldy loading off Wormtail (as a spy?) on Snape.
But yeah, Dumbledore is dead (sans the painting). Sirius might show up in some form, but I doubt it. As for them going back to school-- they have to. I don't know why I think that, I just do. It doesn't make sense to me for them not to come back.
And say what you will about Dumbledore croaking, at least in the context of the universe and Harry's Quest it makes sense.
The look of "revulsion" on Snape's face may have been because he had to kill Dumbledore. "Cause if he is good, then Dumbledore would be the only person who trusted him and he could confide in, and he had to kill him.
And now I do believe that Sirius will come back, because we never actually saw him die, and I doubt Rowling is horrible enough to kill two of the most important characters.
You think that Sirius will come back?? The fact that we never actually saw him die doesn't matter. In the 5th book, Harry thinks that he's not really dead, and Lupin and everybody else make him believe that he's dead. It's just not going to happen.
~Mia
whoa everyone commentiong is so deep i dont think dumbledore is coming back but what about his painting? like will he be able toi talk through it?
i totally made the spiderman harrry connection i think that ginny and harry were good together.
somehow i think slughorn will come into play in the 7th book because JK R has a tendencie to makecharacters who were not like a huge part in one book become key players in the next boook
as for the 8th book the though never crossed my mind i always pictured harry happily gooing off to hogwarts and then all the loose ends would be tied up in his 7th final year.
snape is a nincumpoop(as prov would say) hes only on the dark side because he can only be accepted for his dark abilities. i was surprised because i sort of thought that he would eventually just turn into a more good wizard instead of the other way around. i cant believe hes the half blood prince, for a while i had an inkling(did i use that word right) that it was like lupin or lily but i never would have thought it would be severus snape.
malfoy i sort of felt sorry for him but i think its incredibly hilarious about him crying in the bathroom. but it is kinda sad.
dumbledore dying i was in tears(almost) someone was obv going to die i think i just didnt want to believe it was deor old dumbledore.
me and lucy think that on ron hermione and harrys "get away" or whatever that hermione will get pregnant or something like that.
hagrid and grawp are th coolest
dobby is my favorite character of all time
thats all im a prettyu shallow reader but ill read it again for the deeeper meanings
From an interview with Rowling on Mugglenet:
MA [interviewer]: R.A.B.
JKR: Ohhh, good.
[All laugh.]
JKR: No, I'm glad! Yes?
MA: Can we figure out who he is, from what we know so far?
[Note: JKR has adopted slightly evil look here]
JKR: Do you have a theory?
MA: We've come up with Regulus Black.
JKR: Have you now?
MA: Uh-oh.
[Laughter.]
JKR: Well, I think that would be, um, a fine guess.
MA: And perhaps, being Sirius’s brother, he had another mirror –
JKR: [drums fingers on soda can]
MA: Does he have the other mirror, or Sirius’s mirror?
JKR: I have no comment at all on that mirror. That mirror is not on the table. [Laughter from all; Jo's is maniacal.]
Hermione get pregnant? I think not. She's way too smart for that. I mean I could picture her making out with Ron (towards the end, I would bet it takes them a while), but not going much further.
Dumbledore will be able to talk through his painting like everyone else talks through paintings.
I kind of feel bad for Malfoy, but not really because most of the time I just want to strangle him.
I bet Slughorn still teaches potions. I'm not sure whether or not he'll do something big.
I still don't like the idea of Ginny and Harry (I've always put her crush on him on the same level as a crush on Ewan McGregor), but now that it's happened I think that they should get togehter. The Spiderman thing just doesn't work. I mean, Doc Ock still went after MJ even when they weren't dating or whatever.
Yep. RAB is totally Sirius' brother.
~Mia
I was just reading some things on JK Rowling's website:
"Why did Harry have to forget the mirror he had been given by Sirius in OotP?"
". . . The mirror might not have helped as much as you think, but on the other hand, will help more than you think. You'll have to read the final books to understand that."
So something's definitely up with that mirror.
~Mia
I agree with Seth. Or whoever said that Snape will have a Darth Vader-esque return in the 7th book. There's definately some good in him. Otherwise, why would Dumbledore trust him? Dumblebum isn't an idiot, he would have definately known that he's working with Voldemort. I think that Dumbledore let Snape kill him because it would not only get Snape closer to Voldemort, it would also shake his faith in Voldemort and make him question his own motivations. Plus, Dumbledore was pleading with Snape, possibly for his own life, but more likely for Snape to kill him. If Voldemort got to Dumbledore, then he'd probably suffer a fate worse than death.
"If Voldemort got to Dumbledore, then he'd probably suffer a fate worse than death."
Voldemort doesn't believe that there is anything worse than death. He says so in the 5th book (when he's fighting with Dumbledore at the end).
~Mia
i thoughty of how hermione could get pregnant ok well first of all quitting hogwarts is like whoa a big step so why not celebrate with a few beers (or butterbeers) aha and then ron would be like finally i got snogged by someone cool because lavender is not cool. but then again harry and ron could always drug her water (with the good stuff meaning like not deadly)
doc ock went after MJ because she was with him at that cafe place so doc ock could tell she meant alot to him AND she was connected to harry (in spiderman)
i think slughorn is hiding something still
R.A.B. has to be regulus that would totally rock and then somehow sirius would play a part ph yes i see it now
Zoe - Drug her water?? Ok, now I realize that most (if not all) guys are sex-crazed. but the nice, sweet ones (such as Harry and Ron) are willing to wait. For the the girl that they like/love. And for her to be conscious. And they're not going to celebrate quitting Hogwarts. That's not something they want to do. That's something they believe they NEED to do (although I bet they don't actually do it). And say they do drink the butterbeers. Which they won't get drunk off of, but whatever. Hermione's just going to start snogging Ron now?? I mean we all know she's in love with him, but they're not just going to get together because they're drunk. One last thing - you can't get pregnant by snogging. I know a little British slang from Bridget Jones and all of that. Snogging = kissing/making out. Shagging = sex.
Oh, and put proper sentences together. It's impossible to figure out what you're saying.
~Mia
ok i definetly know that shagging=sex. i mean hello austin powers thats his like favorite word. "shall we shag now, or later?"
well i guess you are right about the hermione pregnant thing. dont try to deny how funny the book would be if she actually did get pregnant.
i hope harry doesn't feel like unaccepted because ron and hermione will be like in love and then he will be just like the friend who tags along or whatever.
What would be funny about Hermione getting pregnant?? I see no appeal in this.
On another note, JK Rowling said in an interview that after the FINAL 7th book of Harry Potter, she's not going to write any more fantasy books.
~Mia
Eh, Zoe has a weird sense of humor.
Yeah, I read that. I also read that she doesn't like fantasy...
Harry is pretty fucking stupid. He could just slide sirius' mirror under the archway. if you argue that he wont be able to find it, he could use a summoning charm.
Regulus is a possibility, but he wasnt high enough in the death eaters to really know that. i doubt even bellatrix knows.
Sirius may come back, not even the ministry or dumbledore understood how he died. unfortunatly we cant tell whether he died because his name was blasted off the chart thing.
I think snape is on the dark side for good.
Harry is fucked now unless he goes back to hogwarts. he cant be an auror otherwise
concerning the eighth book, in an interview with EW she was asked whether she would write one. her response was never say never
yes zoe does have a weird sense of humor its sort of sucks. but i try to contain it so far no one has "stab" ed me yet so i guess thats good
My opinions:
Harry = Peter Parker
R.A.B. = Regulus A. Black
Wormtail = Going to save Harry in 7th book.
Dumbeldore = Positively dead.
Sirius = maybe coming back
7th book = Hogwarts
8th book = nonexistant
Hagrid = going to die
Necklace in Ootp = Locket
Snape = Darth Vader-esque
Anyway, Harry Potter is shagadellic, baby!
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P.S. I can testify for the British slang...
Snogg = Make out
Shagg/Knob = Sex
P.P.S. Maybe Joanne'll pull a Dan Brown! You know, where the wise guy turns out to be evil. McGonnagal may be our worst nightmare!
some more british slang (or austin powers code names/funny sayings)
bait and tackle (i think)=just guess
"my bag baby"=thats my kind of thing or w/e
any word=something related to SEX haha
Nauticashades - I agree with you on everything except Wormtail and Sirius. I do not think that Sirius will come back, and I don't think that Wormtail will save Harry.
Hee. Pull a Dan Brown. When I read the Da Vinci Code and I found out British guy was leading the bad guys (forget what they were called - not the Illuminati), I groaned. Those two books (that one and Angels and Demons) are practically identical. It's just that one's in Paris and the other's in Rome and in one religion is good and science is bad and in the other the opposite.
"Harry is fucked now unless he goes back to hogwarts. he cant be an auror otherwise." Well. If he kills Voldemort, then I don't think the Ministry will exactly turn him away. . .
I'm almost positive RAB is Regulus Black. I don't think that any Death Eater other than Voldemort knew about the horcruxes, so it doesn't matter how high up he was; he just figured it out.
~Mia
PS More British slang -
Fag=cigarette (from Bridget Jones and Shaun of the Dead).
haha bridget jones diary is a funny movie im gonna watch love actually so i can get some slang
Meh you're pwabably right Mia.
Hagrid wont be a mentor for more than obvious reasons. Lupin might, but probably wont because of Tonks.
I wonder what confliacts will occur at the wedding. Maybe there will be an attack...
Remember what Dumbeldore said in the 4th book? Wormtail owes Harry his life, and this has created a powerful life bond. THis reminds me of LOTR... Wormtail will probably have a Gollum-esque purpose in the seventh book. Like he saves Harry or something. I mean, why would there be Wormtail otherwise? He's not an important plot device otherwise.
In fact, Rowling chose to ignore a lot of people in the 6th book: Percy, Ludo Bagman, Wormtail, Charlie W., Cho Chang, and even Voldemort himself.
I've got it! The sorting hat is evil! He was tryring to corrupt Harry the whole time. He is going to join VOldemort in the 7th book, taking the sword with him. I can't wait to see him suck the brains out of unsuspecting first years when they are sorted. He's a mind controlling device!
Oh yeah, and she left out Krum...
the sorting hat eminds me of the boogey man in the night mare before christmas
Hmm. I have no idea what you mean by a Gollum-esque purpose (LOTR is the epitome of geekiness and is just plain annoying. Plus Orlando bloom isn't very hot there. He's much hotter in Pirates). Maybe Wormtail will do something. I dunno.
I think that she left out Krum because while the 4th and 5th books were about Ron's feelings, without really any of Hermione's, this book showed them pretty equally. Hermione sees Krum as a friend, whereas Ron sees him as competition. Therefore, Krum was only shown in relationship to Ron's feelings. He was why Ron started going out with Lavender, and that was his purpose.
Cho and Charlie and Bagman I don't see as being very important. I mean I bet Charlie shows up as a member of the Order, and something might happen to him, but I don't see him doing anything big. I think that Wormtail's sort of served his purpose, but maybe there's more. There's got to be something with Percy. Otherwise, why else would he still be snubbing the Weasleys?? Not quite sure about Voldemort, though. I think she's phasing him out and he won't even be mentioned in the 7th book.
Evil sorting hat!!!! Hee
~Mia
Um if ANYONE stupid enough to not understand how Snape cant be the prince please read page 337 of the sixth book and page 641 of the fifth book.
Are you saying that Snape is NOT the Half-Blood Prince? Just because the book is 50 years old doesn't mean that the owner has to be 50 years old (or 65 I guess, because he would have gotten it at 15-ish). I didn't quite understand Lupin's logic there. It means that the owner has to have gotten the book between 1-50 years ago. Snape qualifies. So, unless you worded your statement incorrectly (unlikely due to the pages you gave), you're wrong.
~Mia
Fine. Well has anyone extensively read the first two books to figure out what year it is in the books?
Do you mean like does it start in 1998 (when the first book was published, I think) or will it end in 2007 (when the last book will probably be published)?? I don't think we know or are supposed to know. It's just around present day. Why do you ask?
~Mia
Just wanted to see how thoroughly you read those books. It might just be because there was virtually nothing else to do in India when i was there but...
The first book, using references from the second book and first book, takes place in 1891 and wierdly the second book takes place in 1992. Thats freaky isnt it?
I'm going to assume you mean 1981 (because I don't think they had TVs or computers or whatever else they mention in 1891!). What references are you using?? I never saw anything that pinpointed any specific year, just modern day type stuff.
Plus, I think if I were in India, there would be more exciting things than Harry Potter to see.
~Mia
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wormtail will so be big in the last book. also bagman he sort of strangely dissapeared.
the sorting hat is going to brainwash the firstyears when he sorts them.
ohhh yes
I can't picture Bagman doing anything big. Wormtail possibly, but maybe not. Oh, and the sorting hat bit is getting old.
~Mia
Mia you have no idea what its like in Delhi. Another thing using references in the second book, (the deathday party chapter) and another one in the first (When NHN is talking to Harry), the first takes place in 1891. which makes no sense. But it is true, read the passages.
OK, first of all, I've never been to India, so I guess I can't talk. It seems interesting, but I guess you're the expert.
The 2nd book takes place in 1992-3 because NHN died in 1492 and it was his 500th deathday. I don't know where he says he's been dead for only 400 years in the 1st book, but that is obviously some continuity error. Like when she says that every single DADA teacher has only lasted 1 years since Voldemort tried, when Quirrel was around before Harry showed up. Or like on Gilmore Girls, when Emily says she's been married for 34 years in season 2, but in season 5 has her 40th anniversary. The 1st book was probably supposed to take place 1991-2, and she accidentally changed how long NHN has been dead.
~Mia
Its an interesting place but not if you go there every year.
Is there anyone who knows a reason why death eaters killed Emmeline Vance?
Oh yeah who thought Sirius' goblet/cup thing was Hufflepuffs? Its not. Its part of the black family
Emmeline Vance was a member of the Order, trying to get rid of Voldemort.
You go to India every year???
~Mia
Oh right she was...
Pretty much.
So out of Ron and Hermione, Who do you guys think will die first?
Ahaha. Zoe- I think it would be hilarious if Hermione got pregnant. Since I have given up on the last 5 books, that happening might draw in some more interest to these books. I mean really. Whats better than Ron and Hermione having sex? Also if I were JK R and wantned people to read my book, then first I would think of all the perverts out there who would read every sentence of the book if it involved even a little bit of sex. Oh and think about how great the movie would be! Hahahahaha, just kidding.
Ron and Hermione can't die!! They have to stick around and realize that the other person is just as in love with themselves as they are with them (if that makes sense - probably completely grammatically incorrect). So I don't think they'll die (in the books).
I don't know if we've really talked about this, but Lupin and Tonks. Possible? Not likely?? Completely disturbing when the possible 20ish year age difference is considered?
~Mia
This is kind of random but do you think that maybe Dumbledore made Snape the DADA teacher because he wanted Slughorn at the school and Slughorn only taught potions? Because he could have gotten any old potion teacher but he really specifically wanted him.
Oh also, I just got back from an all girls overnight camp and people there were more upset about Harry dumping Ginny than anything else in the book. I thought it was amusing.
Well yeah. He needed the memory from Slughorn. In order to have continuous access to it he needed sluggy at Hogwarts.
Guys. I know this thread is old. But I never posted my revelation:
Harry is a horcrux.
But if Harry's the only person who can kill Voldemort, then he'd have to kill himself....first. Kinda makes it hard to finish off Voldy.
Y'know, the original idea was great. I loved it and all. It was charming and very readable and believable, in a "I'd love this to be true kind of way." Now, it's just getting more and more contrived and stupid. Dumbledore has to die to keep the story moving? Excuse me? That came out of nowhere. And it's just so over-the-top dramatic it makes me sick.
I think Hermione will die first.
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